#2. I’m looking for a 20 fretter, I like the older 5 inline Jazz necks, have one on my jazz build, that bass sounds incredible. 2455, fret height (dont measure the tang, jus the crown) is . I. Just got this 2nd hand omen 7, was a bargain, but is it normal for there to be a gap between the fretboard and body? Or have i been had? ReplyThat overhang of the the rosewood to allow for a 22nd fret also allows enough space for the pickguard to slide under it. They are supposed to be 25. I guess you could also deepen the neck pocket area of the pickguard to remove the part that would fit under the extension if you really wanted to. "Epiphone" is an important detail here as they're gonna have a bolt-on neck where a standard. I did not realize the fretboard overhang prevents installing/removing an assembled pickguard unless the neck is substantially loosened. I didn't. I'm planning on ordering a 24. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. It is usually a thin, flat piece of wood or metal and is often elevated from. Enter total playing length of string: Enter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter. Fender neck pocket deminsions 3" x 2 3/16" x 5/8" deep. Okay so the fretboard thickness is . Sep 2, 2019. And that slight overhang might be a great visual feature, too. 118Squier P bass neck join Does the fret board go over the pick guard? Or is the pick guard fitted around it? Anyone have an answer to this? Really appreciate some shared knowledge. This is an excellent idea, IMHO. That’s exactly where I’d put the pickup. 81" at the first fret , . A straightedge along the fretplane falls 2,5 mm below top of bridge and there is a clear change of neck angle at 14th fret. And I thought about providing a measurement from the end of the fretboard, but. On a Dlx 5 string, the 24th fret is alot easier to reach. The gap between the neck and body. Last edited: Feb 1, 2019. Oct 29, 2008 #3Post some pictures and measurements of the neck near the heel plus the distance from the fretboard side of the nut to the center of the 12th fret. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Tried. I have had a Tommy era never mounted all maple USAG Strat neck laying around for years so it's at the luthier for a closeish Tele headstock reshape and stainless refret for a parts build. It's the yellow one. Radius the fretboard off the neck, cut the recess for the top in the neck blank, glue the upper portion of the fretboard to the neck blank leaving it floating over the top area, carve the neck, stain the top, slide the top in under the fretboard "overhang", glue the wings on and then the "lower" portion of the fretboard. Using an overhang also means replacement parts remain compatible, e. . Do I: a) Shim the neck somehow b) File away the pickguard under the overhang (no idea the best way to do this) c) File. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. . . 625" to . Once installation is complete, simply re-intonate your guitar to match the new scale. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Continue the pattern up and down the fretboard, naming each chord as you play it, and do the same with an E chord,. Standard Neck Pocket Depth. 75'' (thats a good thickness for a neck heel), and the. Completely normal. It's an aftermarket pearloid w/b/w pickguard and a maple/ebony standard thin neck on a USA Fender body. Forgot your password? Sign UpThey do 22 fret models with a fretboard overhang, so they’ll work in a standard Fender neck pocket. On the Tele installation was very easy. Switching from a 20 to 21 fret neck usually requires no modification to the bass. The Marketplace; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . 919" from the nut to the end of the neck, and 7. . 5" scale. Bolts on the same and intonates properly. If the neck has a fretboard overhang it will cover the gap. Been looking to switch out the old Rosewood neck on my 2001 MiM standard Strat and this neck would do the trick nicely. 5 radius Rosewood fretboard approx . The first step is to file the protruding fret ends flush to the fretboard. I can see that the standard 25. . The heat will soften the glue and the pressure willallow the fretboard and neck to slide over each other a little bit to realign under the pressure. Will. + $12 Shipping. 5" scale guitars, but find that 24. Apr 20, 2005 #5. If the neck is 21 frets, with no overhang (assuming that the neck ends at fret 21) it will be 17. A Warmoth is based on vintage Fender specs and a 21 fret neck, a 22 fret version has a fretboard overhang. Would make a great main guitar, backup or mod platform. Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. I'm new to this forum, so you'll have to bear with me if this topic has already been covered (and it probably has). The neck for it is a 20 fret 34" scale jazz. prorecordingworkshop. A PRS Silver Sky has a full 22 fret neck where the neck shaft and fingerboard are flush with each other and no overhang. A normal tele bridge should accommodate that. Fits Tele style bodiesSpecs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang9. Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were originally designed for 22 frets. the reason gibson style guitars have neck angle is because the birdge is higher, and since the bridge saddles are higher than the nut, the note made by the frist fret and the 13th fret would be different, basically the action would be higher towards the high end of the neck, and the action would be lower towards the nut. Our guitars are created to sound, feel and look incredible. If this was the only problem, I'd probably just forget about it since it's going to be under the fretboard overhang and I probably won't be able to see it. 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. jazz Bass 74. I put on a white pickguard (rather, forced it on, which caused me to chip the fretboard overhang) and had a 5-way switch and Bill Lawrence pickups installed. RichThis is a question that has been baffling me about my next strat design. 5 scale length, but it is longer than my fender neck (at the heel?) and I’m concerned about the alignment to the bridge if I insert it into the body. There are very few necks like that. Business, Economics, and Finance. I want to make a 22 fret neck with a tele heal and have a spoke style truss rod. #1. Display results as threadsFretboard Contour – This is the radial slope of the fret board. 75 is more comfortable by far. Stu Mac sells a fancy jig for this, but I just hold the file. Special upgrades include a Badass II bridge, Greasebucket master tone, graphite-reinforced neck, and a '70s headstock logo. That neck-heel mark is a little strange, who knows - maybe somebody shaved off the fretboard overhang at some point. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. Then I repeated this entire procedure near the bridge, since my strings are spaced at equal spaces at BOTH the nut and the bridge. Seems the radius in the Fender pickguard was a little smaller than the control plate. Take your fully strung guitar in your hands and hold it strings up, level. The neck will act as a. shift the neck to the treble side until the spacing between the outer strings and the fretboard edge are equal. The thing is, the new Pro model only has 19 frets (as opposed to the 21 on the new 59 reissue and the older reissues). The fretboard overhang is the portion of the fretboard external of the strings: the measure from the external string to the edge of the fretboard. Though it has the same number of frets, fret 22 is on a fretboard overhang. 720 Mod. janeray1940 Active member. I didn't even think of that. I’m by no means a Gretsch expert and was only posting my limited personal experience. 0″ deep neck pocket, the top of the fretboard would be flush with the top of the guitar. It is now ugly, but playable. Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. I am a bit shocked though, at the $2K level, they cannot give you a real neck instead of a modified mass produced neck. FretFind. 83" at the first fret , . 5 radius Rosewood fretboard approx . The overhang doesnt bother me visually, and its nice to have a couple more frets. Builder: Valenti Basses. New posts New media New media comments New resources New profile posts Latest activity. My question conerns the position of the pickguard. 0″ thick neck. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. Most 22-fret Fender necks have the 22nd fret on an overhang. Hi Does anyone know of any AFTER MARKET manufacturers who make full 21 fret necks? I need a full neck, not a 20 fret neck with a 21st fret overhang. If I keep this kit I'll have to glue a scrap of "mahogany" under the area of the fretboard where it's just hanging out there. The device I have allows for the complete fretboard/neck area to be heated. Are there any guidelines or rules of thumb for "fretboard overhang"? Default for the FretFind tool is 0. Tape the two pages together. I've been building the DM-1F and I'm concerned the gap between the over hang of the fretboard at the neck joint and the body of the guitar is too large. If we routed a 1. The pic below shows the new neck on the bottom compared to my fender stock neck on the top. 015 of fall-away at the last fret when comparing to the fret at the body joint. You could also have a bit of fretboard overhang to hide the repair you will do. or not. 5-3mmEnter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. I’m looking for a 20 fretter, I like the older 5 inline Jazz necks, have one on my jazz build, that bass sounds incredible. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. There are a few Squiers and Fenders that have 22 frets without the. Business, Economics, and Finance. Search titles only; Posted by Member: Separate names with a comma. . Let the side of the fretboard overhang the edge just a little bit. Joined Jun 4, 2005 Messages 704 Reaction score 712 Location Ventura, CA. May 29, 2016 #6. 5" and the neck is made to fit a Fender guitar it should be fine, however. On the state of the Art, it may be ( and sort of looks like) someone may have just shaved that extra 1/4. We need to raise that fretboard up 3/8″, so we reduce our too-deep 1. The shape and feel of the neck likewise. On the router table, use a flush trim router bit with a ball bearing to remove the excess fretboard material. Forgive me for being a pain, but I just bought a used Jackson neck and realized that I may have a slight problem with the project I'm working on. Prepare to Remove the Fretboard. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX TeslaMetallic black, awesome condition, rosewood fretboard. So I opted for a new neck instead of a regretting. They make a true 24 fret neck with 25-1/2" scale. Aug 2, 2011. Flatten Fretboard – Use this option to create a flat, classical style of fretboard. 81" at the first fret , . It almost has to be pointed out to be noticed. Here is a picture of a warmoth conversion neck. Easier with the right bit mounted in a router table. Feb 1, 2019 #5. high-quality maple neck, delicate and unique. Most basses have a rosewood fingerboard or a maple fingerboard. All Forums - Member Builds - Tech AreaFirst of all. I have a 2019 Player Series Jaguar bass body. Search titles only. Reactions: Jupiter and Captain Nutslot. . Fanned fretboard (last string 16 inch, first string 15 inch) (You will have to use something other than a regular miter box to cut the fret slots, but it can make a really cool looking instrument)OK! I think I've got it for at least the 4 string necks. Either the heel of the neck get trimmed down or the pocket in the body has to be expanded. 5 - 27" scale with a fretboard overhang of . 83" at the first fret , . Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. 481” maximum heel width, 3. Measurements are. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. Then I marked the string intersection points on this imaginary nut. Bought a tele neck copy from eBay, China, 25. 5 string necks: Warmoth 22-fret necks (no fretboard overhang) are direct replacements for Fender 22-fret necks. Should I try to duplicate this, or is. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. There are four input modes for overhang. $69. The string spacing is 74mm string-to-string at the bridge and 49. A pickguard is . 2. Seems like the MIM (and MIJ) necks don't, but the MIA's do. The GSR205 actually is a bit too long of a fretboard, but it appears that there's a bit of an overhang, so if I trim it enough, I'll have enough room to stick a pickup at the 24th fret position. 5 radius fretboard approx . Depending on the neck cost, I'm assuming my overall expenditure on the project would be in between $1300-1500 USD. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Or, you could use standard nut spacing, and only you'll know that the Low E string has a bit less overhang than the right, which will be imperceptible most likely. Welcome to Crimson Guitars and welcome to Crimson Guitars. That is a 21 fret neck with no overhang, which means that it won't work with the standard bridge placement of a P bass. But, on necks with 22 or less frets, the neck PU is placed on the octave harmonic. 75" is very. A normal tele bridge should accommodate that. you can set an equal dimension for both bass and tremble sides on all the length, or set one dimension for the nut and one for the bridge that are the same on both tremble and bass sides or set all. There is a 3/16" (4. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. . ) Last edited: Feb 27, 2014. Paddle Guitar Neck 24fret 30inch Rosewood Fretboard Long Scale. frank falbo SS. If the bridge is positioned further up the body that means that the fretboard is essentially shifted to the left. 375, at 24th fret is 2. 1. Note: Those Starcasters were made for big-box stores and. Pull the 22nd fret, cut off the fretboard end through the fret slot and see if you like it on your guitar. Rounded heel design with fretboard overhang so it will fit on either a. The top of the guitar under the fretboard overhang was sunk in a lot too, so I made a bolster from a dowel and glued that in. pretty certain that they meant just a neck pocket wifth shim to have a standard neck fit. 09375 inches, but for all I know that's only appropriate for guitar. I understand that you can put some fretboard overhang and add the fret ,,,,,but I would like to add a bit of a twist to my next build. What this means is that for most OEM necks the bottom of the heel to underneath the fretboard is 3/4″ or . )The Acoustic Guitar Forum > General Acoustic Guitar and Amplification Discussion > Build and Repair: Good fretboard overhang?Fretboard Overhang (mm) Perpendicular Fret. My monoprice tele is my current number one. Hello, I have a 2007 Ash Lite Telecaster that I recently got a new neck for. CryptoSeem cool, and I like the look. The filed bits to fit in the pocket would sit below this overhang. The fretboard overhang on the body is normal. But if I saw one with that much space, I'd have to wonder if the neck is original to the body, and if the body is full-thickness (or has a more shallow neck pocket). Ive heard others mention usa necks. Saddle position of the e’ saddle should be set to allow travel in both directions for intonation. Keeping the same scale length, the fretboard would need overhang to where the neck pickup is. Business, Economics, and Finance. There are four input modes for overhang. All Forums - Member Builds - Tech AreaIt doesn't look like Warmoth/Allparts/etc. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. Set e’ saddle distance 3/8” – 7. I use my large three-corner file (also called a cant saw file). There's that little 1/8" nick outside of where the neck pocket should be. 81" at the first fret , . When Scale changes, The frets become closer together or farther apart. The Warmoth site says the 7/8 body will only work with the 7/8 warhead neck. The 720 Mod is available on rear-routed bodies only. There are four input modes for overhang. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. Do Pick Guards Affect Sound?Fretboard Radius: The fretboard radius is the curvature of the fingerboard. I had to file the pickguard back out of the way. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. I'm not sure if Warmoth still offers this option. Standard 21 Fret. You've read the diagram correctly. Staten Island NYC. 21 inch Fretboard. My 2¢. 25in) solid. Reactions: cip 123. . If there is not gap, there is the potential that the very bottom of the fretboard will contact the pickguard and in some cases, that pressure can cause the fretboard at that position to "ski ramp" up and cause all kinds of issues with fret. Nov 30, 2005 Southern Ontario. It would have a Fender style neck pocket, probably with a fretboard overhang. If you put a longer scale neck on a short scale body, the bridge simply must move away from the nut. Hi there Just received an LPS carved top body and Warmoth neck and have a query about the fit. The fretboard/neck/body junction looks terrible. If you like that position, it might work well. 22 jumbo frets, fretboard overhang 9. . 5 radius fretboard approx . Alright then, well I'm drawing up plans for my 1st build, an RR, and I can't seem to figure out how much space there should be. Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. . Display results as threads22-fret overhang necks are all headstock-adjust truss rods AFAIK. Fretboard Overhang. There are very few necks like that. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang There's just enough wiggle room that you can pull up on the pickguard so you can pull it back and clear the bridge, without issue. But now I have a flat fretboard again and the bass plays great and hopefully will for another 2-3 years at least. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. It is in solid working shape and the truss rod works properly. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. 25,683. Messages. Warmoth has said that the 7/8 body had been originally designed for that purpose. Likewise, the Saddles need to be closer to the nut for shorter scale. for the 1/16th of an inch difference you don't even need to take the frets out. I have learned to adapt to 25. 0625 is not enough clearance for a pickguard to fit under the 22 fret overhang when the neck is in the pocket. If you are doing anything but a traditional neck pup check your fretboard for clearance when you determine how much past the neck it can be. Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. When the neck and body are assembled, there is a small space between then end of the fretboard (the last fret near the body). I, however, would much rather have you looking at my new development. Media. Fretboard overhang doesn't mean the bridge is placed differently on the body. Alright then, well I'm drawing up plans for my 1st build, an RR, and I can't seem to figure out how much space there should be. Price From $242. that 1/4 is due to an overhang of fret board over where the neck joins the heel pocket. Yours looks similar, but hard to tell. . Not ordered thou, but i bet if y give exact dimensions they can point you in right direction. . At the age of 69, and with self-isolation a reality, I decided to fulfill a long-cherished dream and build a 1965-era Strat. Hey folks, got a chance to land a nice deal on a 2019 MiM players Strat Pao Ferro neck. they don't. The fit and finish is pretty nice all over, with the neck to body join being particularly well engineered. org Regular. Should I just cut that 0,5mm excess? The fretboard is already cutted to the size of the neck, fret slots + nut slots are already done. If you press too hard, you may cut into the fretboard or binding. It needed a neck reset as the action was more than 1/3 of an inch! I used a saw to cut the neck heel and then bolted it back together. It is usually referred to as a feature. This bass is great but the action gets quite high above the 10th fret. 4 string necks: Warmoth 21-fret necks (with fretboard overhang) are direct replacements for standard 20-fret bass. What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. THere ya go Yon - View attachment 959646 View attachment 959647 The pictures are pretty terrible, but you get the idea anyhow It's a 24" scale 21 fret neck with a spoke-wheel truss rod adjuster mounted at the heel. Warmoth can be pricey. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. ;) Thanks, I’m going to look into this. 22 polished and jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. It's that the new neck sits lower in the pocket than the old one did. 35mm (0. . Make template of pocket, scribe to bottom of neck -keeping in mind range where the scale length works w/saddle adjustments. trock. 7mm) gap between the pickup ring and the end of. number of strings = 4. 0″ neck pocket by 3/8″ and end up with a pocket depth of 5/8″. Screw holes lined up pretty well. The heat will soften the glue and the pressure willallow the fretboard and neck to slide over each other a little bit to realign under the pressure. NO overhang 4. Jun 2, 2023. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard. This body is routed for a G&L neck. 83" at the first fret , . The pickup is deep and deeper than eg Bartolini or KA floaters thus limiting movement possibilities. On the eBay guitar it's square, like a Tele's. Hey @JACK G Merry Christmas! Yes, my SE serial CA has 22 frets and no skunk stripe. 92" at the 12thBone NutDuel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg hole. If you are getting a 24-fret neck and having us build a body to go with it, you will have the option to move the neck pickup back from the neck pocket to compensate for this overhang. I've been wanting to do this for the last several months but haven't been able to find a good 5 string candidate with a slim neck. Super low action and plays perfectly with 10-46 gauge strings. Most conversion necks are in fact 24. Bare Knuckle Mississippi Queen P90 PickupsNecks come with heel adjust truss rods by default, such as the hex nut or spokewheel rod. I ask because to thought necks with the extra frets had a fretboard overhang and this neck doesn’t Feb 18, 2022 #5. Please visit FretFind 2D . I. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…Having to remove the neck to get the scratchplate off is a bloody nuisance Why can't they just make the neck as long as the fretboard?B. A 1/8"(3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. 25,683. Black limba A2: 8lb 2oz. Because an overhang doesn't allow clear access to a heel truss rod nut. . This neck fits most Tele® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. Cagey Senior member. Most true-to-Strat-style bodies will be built for a 21-fret (no fretboard overhang) or 22-fret (with a 1-fret fretboard overhang) neck: this means, crucially, the bridge is positioned in relation to the neck pocket to accommodate and intonate with the assumption of a 21- or 22-fret neck. Will this work on a standard p bass body. String width (space between first and last string) at nut is 1. A fretboard is the part of a stringed musical instrument on which the strings are mounted. Switching from a 20 to. Having that much room between the neck pocket and the. Mar 25, 2017. However, without the overhang, it may be difficult to adjust the saddles enough to get proper intonation. I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. prorecordingworkshop. I am using fretfinder to design the fretboard. 2. And since most folks also shim the neck on the JM, the overhanging fret won't give any problems. 750" from the base to the underside of the fretboard overhang. #1. The Modern Player neck has no fretboard overhang, so the end of the pocket sits closer to the bridge. Set e’ saddle distance 3/8” – 7. Builder: Valenti Basses. The GSR205 actually is a bit too long of a fretboard, but it appears that there's a bit of an overhang, so if I trim it enough, I'll have enough room to stick a pickup at the 24th fret position. Somehow the neck shifted in the pocket and I didn't notice it due to the fretboard overhang. Work the spatula under the fretboard overhang. Jun 2, 2023. With the overhang and the pickguard, it will be invisible. SN-32569 . Tele specsI have a 2011 Fender Cabronita MIA body with TV Jones T Armond’s, and Bigsby. You can get the neck(s.